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Masa
06-14-2009, 10:29 PM
While talking with other members in chat about IPMS and military modeling in general, I realized that I've never built any armor models (at least as far as I can remember). As a wee lad, I built planes, trains, and automobiles, spaceships and lots and lots of robots, but never got around to building anything painted in olive drab. To 'broaden my horizons" so to speak - I decided to (gasp) build an armor kit. Looking around for something to build, I stumbled across the Maschinen Krieger series by Mr. Yokoyama. I figured "hey, this is kinda armor-ish, and appeals to me more than tanks do," so off to do some research I went.

While googling through some photos of kits I came across a site that had an awesome build up of a Nitto Kröte. After drooling over the buildup photos for a bit, my brain finally registered that I've heard the name Otaku Viking somewhere else...

Our very own KROKOHUNTER!!!!!!!!

http://krokohunter.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/the-krote-is-finished/

Even if you aren't interested in the genre - check out the builds - amazing stuff!

Tsunamidelta
06-14-2009, 10:51 PM
Well funny how things like that work out Eh Masa.. I'm hoping some of my tank pictures will help ya Masa.. I can post up the other pics from the musuem I went to in Tampa if you need em ^_^

Though its not a true tank.. Come on.. Go buy some real armour already.. A Panzer or a Sherman.. something that you can pile junk on in the true way of the IPMS.

Masa
06-15-2009, 03:26 AM
A tank? Hmmmm....:donotwant:

I think the Ma.K stuff is a happy medium. Not straying too far into the armor realm while whetting my appetite for something new. Smack me if I start talking about scale black though... :petrified:

This stuff is made of the same unobtanium as event only figure kits. Since I'm totally late for this party - it's going to be hard hunting down some of the kits. All the interesting items have the dreaded "soldout/discontinued" signs.

Tsunamidelta
06-15-2009, 05:04 PM
The Farce is strong with you.. Use the Farce..

Yeah those are a happy medium.. won't disagree with you.. and trust me, I will smack you round and solid if you talk about Scale Black, or counting rivets. And that goes for the rest of you loons out there got me !!:angry:

Good luck on finding them kits though Masa.. Use the Farce.. and it will guide you. :smile:


And yes I finally decided to start using the new Emoticon thingies!

Matt

Masa
06-18-2009, 10:25 AM
I think I found something cool and made of unobtanium - Wave's 1/20 scale Gans kit. Got it for a little bit more than retail price. I'll have to wait for Kroko to show up and tell me if the kit was worth it or not :puzzled:

Masa
06-18-2009, 10:41 AM
And ordered two of these from Amazon here in Japan. Hasegawa 1/20 scale Falke.

Tsunamidelta
06-18-2009, 07:09 PM
Mmm.. Good scores Masa.. in my opinion.. and I see oppurtunity to use scale black.

Masa
08-05-2009, 07:49 AM
Like OMG! An actual WIP...

1/20 scale Maschinen Krieger S.A.F.S. Space Type Fireball SG from WAVE corp. Yeah, you read right... 1/20. Makes those A-Brand 1/8 scale look gigantic.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=421

The going is very slow as I can only work on it at night after the family and kids are asleep. One thing I forgot after my 20 year styrene kit blank is how many pieces these kits contain. So, after lots of cutting and sanding and gluing - here is where we are at right now.

Doesn't look like much, but there are like 50 something pieces and 4 hours of work represented here :abandoned:

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=419

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=420

Shintocowboy
08-05-2009, 11:09 AM
O wow...that looks like an ordeal...がんばって!

Tsunamidelta
08-05-2009, 07:31 PM
Wheee the joys of styrene!! Fifty that all? You'd thunk they could've stuck about a hundred in that small an area.. they seem to be able to do that with Gundam and Macross kits. ^^; Huh who would've thunk it.

Looking real good so far.. seeing some uneven areas around them ankles though Masa.. On the one in the pic closest to the camera. outside of that.. Sweet!

Masa
08-05-2009, 09:12 PM
Looking real good so far.. seeing some uneven areas around them ankles though Masa.. On the one in the pic closest to the camera. outside of that.. Sweet!

Sorry, should have mentioned that the legs were just tacked together for positioning. I have already cut the pieces apart - since all the joints need to be replaced with epoxy putty and wire. Since this is my first one, I have no idea which sections will be visible from the outside, so I needed to do a partial assembly to make a plan of attack.

Thanks for the encouragement- Shinto & Tank Boy!

Tsunamidelta
08-05-2009, 09:30 PM
Tank boy! I haven't built a tank in years.. though I could start.. Ooh yes.. Tanks with cute girls.. MWAHAHAHA!

Yeah smack me now... I figured you'd be building em static.. but thought you'd just go ahead and use the joints and drop glue in em like I do .. Maybe I'm doing it the screwy way.. mmmmmmmmmmm......

Joa
08-06-2009, 05:44 AM
Masa; I would strongly recommend checking out this (http://fichtenfoo.net/forum) forum for inspiration and techniques.

Masa
08-06-2009, 08:23 AM
@Joa - Thanks for the link. I have been checking out a lot of builds there and at the Ma.K specific forums. I'm really looking forward to the painting and weathering of this kit. It should be fun.

@Tsunami - yeah, almost all of the builds I've seen so far have sculpted joint covers and wire joints for extended movement of the limbs. I'm not planning anything drastic, but just want to change the proportions a bit and make the suit look a little tougher :)

Dr.H
08-08-2009, 12:24 PM
Lol Masa what is this "WIP" thing you are talking about? :nuts: I seem to recall what one is but I have to admit I haven't seen one around my area for some time :innocence:

Masa
08-08-2009, 08:49 PM
I've cut the legs and arms apart and am getting ready to pin and putty/sculpt the joints. The surface scars and scratches are there on purpose - this is supposed to be a heavily used war machine, not a pretty anime girl...

The surface will get the Tsunami recommended zimmerwaltdisney treatment and be battle damaged to boot.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=430

Tsunamidelta
08-08-2009, 09:01 PM
Zimmerwaltdisney treatment?! I think I just heard an IPMS puppy die. Now that I think about it.. Yup, You just killed an IPMS Puppy Masa.. you should be proud of yourself ^_^



But on a serious note.. Zimmermet was a ceramic coating used by the Nazi's. So! Where you have Battle damage!! make it look like the ceramic layer cracked away too ^_^

Or if you want you could wad some on top of it.. like the germans did.. to fill in the cracks .

Just some thoughts

Masa
08-08-2009, 09:09 PM
While waiting for putty to dry, I started work on the hardest part of this kit - the thruster bells.

Since this is a re-issue kit, I'm not sure if this is Wave's fault, or Modelkasten/Nitto (the original producers)... but they made the thruster bells in two halves split down the sides. The joint can't be cleaned up without removing the detail from the ribbing on the thruster. If that wasn't bad enough, the detail itself tapers off towards the part edge and the gate is right smack dab in the middle of the ribbing :pissed:

Here you can see the two halves glued together.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=429

Now I've read on the Ma.K forums about how everyone has been getting around this and there are quite a few options - my least favorite being "cleaning up the detail between the ribbing with a fine nail file and reconstructing lost details with putty." Some even sanded off all the raised areas and recreated the ribbed lines with .02mm plastic rods wrapped around the cone. Other, more adventurous types turned a piece of plastic on a lathe and rebuilt the part from scratch. I like a challenge as much as the next guy... but this is supposed to be a fun "diversion"... and those options sound too much like "work".

Salvation arrives in the form of machined aluminum detail parts (usually used for Gundam and the like). I found a site that sells a pretty spot-on version of a Saturn rocket thruster (the actual part used for the original sculpt of this kit) and it came in the mail yesterday... life is good again

:beautiful:

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=434

Joa
08-09-2009, 05:36 AM
A few pages for your inspiration ... ;)

http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/in-progress-%C2%BB-patrol-in-the-debris-field/

http://www.fichtenfoo.com/images/prog-FireballSG/FBSG-08.jpg

KrokoHunter
08-15-2009, 06:35 AM
Wow ... I'm away from this board for a couple of months .. and meanwhile Masa turns to the dark side :D

Welcome to the world of Ma.K. Masa ... and thanks for your kind words about my Kröte build .... it was actually a pain to build, because the legs snapped a couple of times.

The Gans is an ÜBERcool kit, and because it's already hard to get again, a bit over retailprice is fair enough ...

I highly recommend you to check out this kewl Gans build. It's was this video, that inspired me to go back brushpainting, using a wet-palette ..... and I love the result.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq-gQX3WUzo&feature=related

Masa
08-15-2009, 07:27 AM
Welcome back!

Yes, I needed a break from the meticulous world of figure painting, and am looking forward to going in armed with only a palette and paintbrushes. So far, it's been lots of fun and not having to worry about surface imperfections and masking is very liberating. I made lots of mistakes already, but I expected as much, and it has been a great learning experience so far. I'm not giving up on figures or anything, but having a wider variety of genres under my belt (not to mention the different techniques) is all win/win.

I picked up a Krote and some other kits too, so if you don't mind... I might bug you with a question or two when I get to the assembly stage.

KrokoHunter
08-15-2009, 07:31 AM
Welcome back!

Yes, I needed a break from the meticulous world of figure painting, and am looking forward to going in armed with only a palette and paintbrushes. So far, it's been lots of fun and not having to worry about surface imperfections and masking is very liberating. I made lots of mistakes already, but I expected as much, and it has been a great learning experience so far. I'm not giving up on figures or anything, but having a wider variety of genres under my belt (not to mention the different techniques) is all win/win.

I picked up a Krote and some other kits too, so if you don't mind... I might bug you with a question or two when I get to the assembly stage.

By all means ... feel free to ask.

Bubel
08-15-2009, 11:29 AM
http://www.geocities.jp/nobu_hill/model/adolphus.jpg
Here link for inspiration...
This guy making his own scratch builds.
I find his way of creating aging affects and painting are very stunning.
He is concept artist for Silent Hill 2 (maybe some other games of the serie, i`m not sure)
http://www.geocities.jp/nobu_hill/modeling.html

Masa
08-17-2009, 04:32 AM
Thanks Bubel,

Those builds rock! Love the grime and rust application.

Masa
08-17-2009, 04:36 AM
Little update - started working on the legs. They are cleaned up a bit and wired together. Epoxy putty was applied to the insides of the pieces and wire is inserted into holes drilled in the putty. The pose is now adjustable and the next step is puttying the joint covers.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=469&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=469)

Masa
08-17-2009, 04:40 AM
Also did some work on the thruster bells. Since the machined parts only need the top half of the mount, the irregular troublesome styrene bells were cut off with a mini saw blade and sanded flush. Here you can see the components, the assembled thruster unit, and the interior details.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=472&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=472)

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=470&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=470)

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=471&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=471)

Masa
08-21-2009, 04:02 AM
Completed all the joints... didn't like the results, so I took the pieces apart again, removed all the putty and did it again. These are shots before the joints were smoothed and cleaned up after round two.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=505&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=505)

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=504&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=504)

The laser on the original kit is a tiny stub sticking out the front of the arm piece. I removed it and replaced it with a mini vernier part from WAVE. Looks much cooler (to me, at least).

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=506&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=506)

Main work on the torso is finished. You can't tell in the photos, but the surface has been roughed up and dings and scratches have been added in areas that would receive wear and tear.

front view

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=503&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=503)

and side view

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=507&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=507)

KrokoHunter
08-21-2009, 04:13 AM
Looking good Masa ..

It really gives me an urge to get moving on some of my Ma.K. projects :D

secretasianman
08-21-2009, 11:26 AM
Looking good so far, I swear, WIPs are like modeling porn.


...didn't like the results /// took the pieces apart again /// removed all the putty...

are we talking about pulling apart styrene or just the sub-assemblies? and if it's the former are you using a temporary fixative?

Masa
08-21-2009, 11:05 PM
@Kroko - thanks, and... get moving! :whip:



Looking good so far, I swear, WIPs are like modeling porn. are we talking about pulling apart styrene or just the sub-assemblies? and if it's the former are you using a temporary fixative?

Thanks.
Just the sub-assembly. A careful twist and pull and the CA joint will usually let go without too much fuss.

Masa
08-22-2009, 05:48 AM
Another section of this model that I didn't really favor was how the cable from the back of the feet return into the legs of the suit. They are prominently exiting the back of the feet and then just shoved up into the back of the leg section. This is an image from a finished model (not mine).

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=521&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=521)

:distressed:

I figure if they made a protrusion for the exit cable, they should have some kind of receiving piece for the return cable. I pulled another Gundam option part off the WAVE sprue and drilled some tiny (remember this is 1/20 scale) holes to accept the cables. This part will be glued on to the back of the legs and will receive the cables coming from the feet.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=520&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=520)

Tsunamidelta
08-22-2009, 11:36 AM
Looking pretty damn dirty Masa! Your getting into that IPMS spirit now! Soon you'll be building Panthers and tigers.. I just know it ^_^ Mwhahahaha!

Seriously though. Looks pretty damn spunky.. how did the joints come out after sanding? And I take it your doing some kind of jumping scene with that rod o' doom shoved up that things buttocks ^^

Masa
08-22-2009, 10:23 PM
Looking pretty damn dirty Masa! Your getting into that IPMS spirit now! Soon you'll be building Panthers and tigers.. I just know it ^_^ Mwhahahaha!

Seriously though. Looks pretty damn spunky.. how did the joints come out after sanding? And I take it your doing some kind of jumping scene with that rod o' doom shoved up that things buttocks ^^

Sorry, I should have mentioned that the above image was just to show where the original cables went. Edited the post to express that.

:bows:

Shintocowboy
08-22-2009, 10:42 PM
Sorry, I should have mentioned that the above image was just to show where the original cables went. Edited the post to express that.

:bows:

I was going to say you owned the hell out of those option parts. XP

Masa
08-22-2009, 10:48 PM
Here is where I'm at with the joints right now.

This is a shot of the legs. The knee sections are kinda "blah", but this will be covered up with the knee armor.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=523&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=523)

Here is a shot of the arms and torso. Happy with the arms for the most part. The shoulders will be mostly hidden by the armor plates, so I didn't spend a lot of time sculpting detail into this area. I did a test with leftover epoxy putty trying to get a weld seam for the protruding sections on the main body. Not really happy with the results as the scale is all wrong. Will sand these off and try again with even smaller welds.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=522&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=522)

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=524&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=524)

Tsunamidelta
08-23-2009, 01:44 AM
Looking pretty damn sharp Masa.. the weldment does look a little bit.. but not obnoxiously so.. you could prolly just file off the excess and round it down a little and it'd look just right, instead of nixing and trying over..

Just a thought.

Masa
08-24-2009, 06:34 AM
"All the king's horses, And all the king's men, Couldn't put Humpty together again"

Progress from last night. Hatch is finally in place as well as the shoulder armor. I sanded down the weld marks and hopefully they'll look in scale when painted (Thanks Tsunami!). Started to do the zimmer-thingy to the main torso. It looks pretty cool up close.

Tacked the parts together to work out the pose. The original parts that hold the legs to the main body didn't allow me enough movement, so I removed that section and jury-rigged a "leg holder" from Wave ball joints. The legs can be removed from the body as well as the arms to allow access for painting.

Here are some shots:

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=527&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=527)

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=528&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=528)

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=525&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=525)

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=526&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=526)

Tsunamidelta
08-24-2009, 11:35 AM
Zimmer-thingy.. All of the IPMS just rolled over in their tank beds.

Looking really slick.. the welds look smaller now. so hopefully it'll work you'll know after priming ^^;;;

Joa
08-24-2009, 12:05 PM
Zimmer-thingy.. All of the IPMS just rolled over in their tank beds.

My thought exactly ...
And you wanted to revoke my IPMS membership, Masa ... ;)

KrokoHunter
08-24-2009, 01:21 PM
Regarding the Zimmer-thingy .. :D

I use plain Mr. Dissolved Putty, and simply stuble it onto the surface, with a shorthaired brush .. easy peasy and resembles cast-iron very well

Tsunamidelta
08-24-2009, 01:49 PM
Zimmer-whatist

should come out looking sorta like this!

http://photos.kitmaker.net/data/500/Tiger1_turret.jpg

More zimmer-crud

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/warthog2/Brummbar/Img_3025.jpg

Images stolen happily from armorama!

http://www.armorama.com/

Masa
08-24-2009, 10:36 PM
@Joa and Tsunami - I won't tell if you won't ;)

@Tsunami - Hmm... if that is an actual zimmer-kahootziz... maybe that's NOT what I want. Looks like someone glued rows of french fries to their tank.

:puzzled:

I'm looking for something more like Krokohunter's Krote surface. Looks kinda like they poured cast metal. Maybe it's more of an American tank thingy?

@Kroko - Thanks, I was going to ask how you did your surface texture. I tried the brush method on a scrap piece and the pattern looked kinda too even. I'm probably doing it all wrong ^^;;

Tsunamidelta
08-25-2009, 03:19 AM
Ahh your looking for the look of cast iron!.. Yeah ZImmer-cruddy is an anti-mine defense..

Ya know never realized how much it looks like french fries glued to the surface of a tank til you pointed that out.. Uhm... wow.

Masa
08-25-2009, 03:38 AM
Yes, thank you!

:bows:

The cast iron look, except not as rusty. With some grime and lunar dust.

KrokoHunter
08-25-2009, 04:25 AM
@Masa ... hmmm, I've never had any trouble with the cast iron look .... I've used Mr. Dissolved Putty for a couple of models, and for my Archelon I used a textured gold paint (for walldecorations) which also worked pretty good .... the bonus effect was, that when I scratched the painted surface on Archelon with sandingpaper for weathering, the gold shined through, giving the Archelon a cool patinated copper look

http://krokohunter.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/archelon18.jpg

I'll have a suit ready for texturing in a week or so.. I'll try so snap som pics then :D

Masa
08-25-2009, 06:52 AM
:please:

Much appreciated - I'm totally open to new ideas :)

Masa
08-26-2009, 11:40 AM
Day 2345... and we are finally at my favorite part - the PAINTING stage

:nice:

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=537&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=537)

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=538&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=538)

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=539&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=539)

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=540&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=540)

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=541&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=541)

Shintocowboy
08-26-2009, 04:45 PM
Masa, that is dirty as hell...GJ! ^^

Masa
08-26-2009, 11:45 PM
Masa, that is dirty as hell...GJ! ^^

Thank you very much :)

I'm sure viewers are torn between "WTF?" and "That looks like A$$"... but don't worry - there is a method to my madness.

:evillaugh:

This is just the first layer - modulation and all that. Think of it as an undercoat. Just need some texture and some shadows and then all the nice pretty stuff gets layered on top.

Hopefully...

KrokoHunter
08-27-2009, 03:42 AM
I think it looks awesome .... very nice base .... will surely become a killer with a couple of tones and filters

Dr.H
08-27-2009, 08:35 AM
Lol those kits are so far out of my comfort range that I'm just waiting to see, I have absolutely no constructive criticism.. yeah I'm a big help:innocence:

Masa
08-28-2009, 12:48 AM
@Kroko - thanks for the vote of confidence - I hope I won't disappoint ;)

@Doc - Thanks, I know this must be irritatingly boring for some :p But the idea was to document the hell out of the process and hope that someone gets something out of it. This is the first Ma.K I've attempted, so I wanted to really show the entire process from start to finish and include all the mistakes as well as the triumphs. And I won't (gasp) touch an airbrush or mask anything. Hand brushed and finished. Don't know how this is going to end... but I'm setting my goals very high to "well... it doesn't look like total crap".

:XD:

Dr.H
08-28-2009, 09:08 AM
Nope not boring at all really. I find it very interesting ;). I just felt like I should give something good to say like "that looks right" or "should there be more deep gray under the rust" or any of the supportive/helpfull suggestions lol then I stopped and thought I have no freaking clue how to make one of those haha.

Hmm I got one!: Keep up the good work, I'm learning a lot!:smile:

secretasianman
08-28-2009, 11:57 AM
:nuts:

I'm with the Doc on this one. Detailed buildups like this is an art form and like most artwork, constructive criticism can easily cross the blurry line into subjective opinion with no foundation or prior experience from the commenter themselves.

Since I'm still mired in "clean construction" buildups and also feel this exceeds my 'comfort level,' all i can do is silently admire at the evolution from bare plastic to perfection while nodding and agreeing at the same time.

Masa
08-30-2009, 12:43 AM
Thanks for the vote of confidence :shy:

After some extended paint sessions... I changed my mind and stripped and re-primed the kit. Yeah, it might have worked the way it was, and yes, you can pull rabbits out of hats... but it just wasn't going in the right direction.

The suit as is, was way too corroded and rusty. Since this is a space-based suit, it didn't feel right to have it all environmentally thrashed (although for a land-based suit it would have been ideal). I was so anxious to do a "been to hell and back" kinda look... that I didn't really think about whether this was the right kit or not.

So, minor setback. Tough. We pull back and regroup. Lots of sanding, some thinner, elbow grease and the kit is now re-primed and drying. Once the basecoat is reapplied, I will post interim photos to show the "before/after" shots.

KrokoHunter
08-31-2009, 04:34 AM
Totally OT ... Secret, I LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE your new avatar :D

Masa
09-03-2009, 11:35 PM
4th down with 30 yards to go, on our own 10 yard line... we punt. Here is the "dirty scrap heap" version after I layered on some white. It's not bad per say, just not what I had in mind. So strip and redo.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=570&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=570)

Reprimed with Mr Color Mahogany and blocking in the camo pattern with Gaianotes Anti-flash White and Mr. Color Duck Egg Green with some Neutral Gray mixed in. This isn't the final version, just figuring out where I want the pattern to be. It will all be touched up and cleaned up later. It is "supposed" to look crappy now. Don't Panic lol.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=572&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=572)

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Most of the setbacks I've encountered so far have been due to me not being familiar with the mechanical aspects of this kit. When painting the camo pattern on the legs, I noticed that there was just a hole cut out where the power hose is supposed to enter the lower leg. Hose with no coupling? Most unacceptable...

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=582&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=582)

Kotobukiya option parts to the rescue. I take a minus mold that is the right size for the diameter of the hose and proceed to remove the material inside the part. Some knife work followed by the motor tool and voila - power hose couplings!

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=581&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=581)

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Masa
09-05-2009, 03:38 AM
Base color is done. Surface scratches were applied with sandpaper and files. Certain areas are a bit rough - but those will be touched up at later stages. Washes and filters still to come. Decals soon.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=587&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=587)

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Dr.H
09-05-2009, 09:40 AM
ooh I like that much better :) the color looks like something you would dig out of cold war era Soviet military storage.

secretasianman
09-05-2009, 10:14 AM
Base color is done. Surface scratches were applied with sandpaper and files. Certain areas are a bit rough - but those will be touched up at later stages. Washes and filters still to come. Decals soon.

I want to assume washes bring out the molded details and panel/seam lines - can you elaborate the concept of "filters" for the uninitiated?

Masa
09-05-2009, 10:50 AM
I think this link can explain filters far better than I can :)

http://www.migproductions.com/minisite/lavados/washes.htm

I've learned so much from this "diversion project", and plan to apply some of the new techniques to my next figure kit.

Masa
09-25-2009, 09:32 PM
I have applied all the decals and the kit is waiting to be clear coated for the enamel washing/filters stage. These are some photos taken immediately after the decals were applied. Mr. Mark Softer was used on some of the decals to help them conform to the curved areas of the surface. The slight edges you can see on some of the decals will disappear after the clear coats are applied.

Mr. Color and Gaia Color paints are semi-gloss when dry and the decals have no problem adhering directly to the dry painted surface. Some water based acrylics that dry to a matte finish might fare better with a coat of gloss or semi-gloss clear before decal application.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=655

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Tsunamidelta
09-26-2009, 04:25 AM
MWahaha... One step closer to IPMS membership he is.. To the dark side with ye.. I'll send ye a tank

Masa
10-05-2009, 12:55 AM
After the decals are applied, the entire kit gets sprayed with a coat of Mr. Super Clear (semi-gloss) to protect the decals and seal all the work up til now. Washes made from a mixture of enamel thinner and paint (brown and grey with just a drop of black) are applied to the panel lines and edges. After this is dry, the excess is then wiped off with a cotton swab dipped in enamel thinner. This process is repeated until the desired effect is achieved.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=665

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http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=664&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=664)

Shintocowboy
10-05-2009, 09:27 AM
:D Looking real good Masa.

Masa
10-06-2009, 02:48 AM
All the armor plates and power hoses are attached. Each spring hose has a solid core wire inside so that I can bend and pose it. The next step will be the filters, followed by more weathering and pigments. I'm keeping the fragile antenna and thruster bells separate from the main body due to the probability of an accident while handling the main structure. I apologize for the harsh lighting - the glare is from my desk lamp.

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=668

http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?pictureid=669&albumid=10&dl=1250494290&thumb=1 (http://www.gkjapan.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=669)

Masa
11-07-2009, 10:20 PM
I picked up a circular plastic conduit cover at the hardware store to use for the base of the figure. It's hollow on the interior - so I'm toying with the idea of having some leds/lighting/eye candy.

secretasianman
02-12-2010, 11:40 PM
God damn, I thought *I* was guilty of stalling.

Are you looking for static LEDs or something a little more.... "flashy?"

Masa
02-13-2010, 02:20 AM
God damn, I thought *I* was guilty of stalling.

Filmy? Is that you? :hi:


Are you looking for static LEDs or something a little more.... "flashy?"

I was thinking about something more "Steampunk-ish" and retro looking like an old flickering ship light. But after Joa's wonderful experience with the delicate touch of US customs... I'm now thinking I should just dismiss the electronics entirely versus trying to explain tealight circuitry to the good folks at airport security (I'm taking this kit with me to Hawaii later this year).

Lack of progress? The usual - real life, work, family. My son graduating from his terrible two's and forging straight into terrible three's. Shortage of billionaires wanting me to do artwork for their books. I spent the better part of my holidays making a pegasus sculpture frame for my daughter's school project :giveup:

Tsunamidelta
02-13-2010, 07:29 PM
Lack of progress? The usual - real life, work, family. My son graduating from his terrible two's and forging straight into terrible three's. Shortage of billionaires wanting me to do artwork for their books. I spent the better part of my holidays making a pegasus sculpture frame for my daughter's school project :giveup:

Pegasus sculpture for ya daughters school project.. sounds better then drilling holes into your basement floor to take care of the leaks through it.
:abandoned:

secretasianman
02-20-2010, 10:02 PM
Filmy? Is that you? :hi:

Oh you wound me!

Relax, no malice intended. We all stall for numerous reasons, especially me hence the jesty jab. It's a hobby and pastime after all, not our primary occupations. So it's good to be able to escape here once in a while and see what everyone's doing.


Anyway, was just checking in, and shall return when the paint flows again :nice: